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to scary. concerns over chemical weapons has secretary clinton conferring with her russian counterpart today to try to avoid deadly developments. >>> an nbc news exclusive, afghanistan's president hamid karzai talks about his country's future and ongoing insecurity and blames the taliban of course. guess who else? nato and the united states. good morning from washington. it's thursday, december 6th, 2012. this is "the daily rundown." i'm chuck todd. let's get right to my first reads of the morning. today's fiscal cliff photo op of the day is going to be in suburban northern virginia when the president will remind the public yet again that without a budget deal taxes will go up on 100% of americans at the end of the year. he'll visit the home of a middle class family who shared their story through the white house's hash tag my 2k social media campaign. >>> with talks and a public stalemate on wednesday the president called speaker boehner their first conversation of the week. the two sides agreed on one thing. they wouldn't characterize the conversation. aides even refused to say how lo

clinton holds emergency talks with russia as u.s. officials confirm reports that the syrian military is prepared to launch chemical weapons against its own people. >> we've made it very clear what our position is with respect to chemical weapons and i think we will discuss that and many other aspects. >> the whole world is watching. the whole world is watching very closely. and the president of the united states has made very clear that there will be consequences. >> plus, sharp criticism from afghan president karzai. the exclusive nbc interview. why he says the u.s. is partly to blame for the growing instability in his country. >>> and the duchess of cambridge leaves the hospital after being treated for acute morning sickness. her royal father-in-law couldn't be happier. >> i'm not a radio station? >> grandfather, that's splendid. that's great she's getting better. >> good day, i'm chris cillizza in for andrea mitchell live in washington. behind the bluster and the rhetoric, what happens going on behind the scenes in the budget negotiations? and big breaking news in this town. senat

that are now operating within syria. >> secretary of state clinton's concern as nbc reports that syria is loading its bombs with chemical weapons. welcome to you both. this is pretty serious, isn't it, nick? you've just been in syria. is it actually news, in the sense of this is the first we heard of this? or are the pentagon briefing, this is a reality? >> have have been reports already, that syria has weaponized its nerve gas already into scud missiles, into artillery and into bombs. these have been going on, in fact, i noticed cnn two days ago had reported something similar. there seems to be more reports that chemicals for nerve gas are being united. there team seems to be more reports of them mixing. that's pretty alarming. >> i remember covering back in britain, the iraq war buildup. and we had almost exactly the same pattern. bad guy has chemical weapons about to use them on his people. we have to do something. turned out to be a lot of twadle. how do we know this intelligence is true? >> i suppose we don't know. there's a lot of reporting, true or false. i don't know as much as

think it's important that we have a seat at the table. >> flash point serious, secretary clinton in brussels where nato leaders are sending patriot anti-defense missiles to turkey and warning syria of any thought of using chemical weapons. prince william leaves the hospital after visiting kate. she remains hospitalized for severe morning sickness. good day. i'm amount li-- andrea mitchell live in washington. the senate has managed to vote on something, rejected a u.n. treaty to extend rights to the blind and disabled, rights that have been the law of the land here in the united states since 1990. despite an emotional appearance from bob dole just out of walter reed, 89 years old, a passionate advocate for equal rights for the disabled since his first speech on the senate floor in 1969. joining me for our daily fix, kra, managing editor of post politics.com and capitol hill correspondents, nbc's kelly o'donnell and luke russert. kelly, to you, because this vote in the senate, john kerry led the way, it was bipartisan, in support. they needed 6 votes. it's a treaty, two-thirds of t

of state hillary clinton. the u.s. and other nations fear that the syrian regime could use chemical weapons against its own people. secretary clinton making it very clear that syrian president bashar al-assad must go. >> let me also be absolutely clear. the united states stands with the syrian people in insisting that any transition process result in a unified, democratic syria. in which all citizens are represented. sunni, alawite, christians, kurds, men, women, every syrian must be included in this process for a new and better future. martha: still far from where we are right now in the country of syria where 45,000 people have been killed under the assad regime. president, secretary clinton also promising to hold all parties accountable for what happens in syria. in other words, if assad does go, if you are part of that regime, part of the killing, part of what we've seen happening you also will be held accountable. bill: we were told the ignition process had begun for the chemical weapons. if that is the case. we were also told they have a shelf life for about 60 days. if you do not use

, you remember very well that we had a very different white house. president clinton had decided that he was going to try to work with the republicans. he brought in a new chief of staff by the name of erskine bowles, and in that has popped up again. and he immediately called me and said to my here to work with you and that enabled us to do a lot of things that i don't think the republicans today can get done with this obama white house. lou: and are you and i in agreement that the republicans are not in nearly sufficiently strong position, not with the lack of talent, there are some questions about that, but because of the lack f power of the leaders in the house and the role of the house in this negotiation. >> i am not prepared to ay that. i go up to the capitol every week and meet with the republican leaders and listen to them as they talked very openly about what their views are and what they're trying to get done. and i can tell you that they are a lot stronger than they have been presented by the conservative media. the interesting thing about the speaker is to make you look car

them to other militant groups. that is the wanting today from secretary of state, hillary clinton. speaking at nato, secretary of state, hillary clinton added this time it is running out for bashar al-assad. >> we believe, as you know, that their fall is inevitable. it is a question of how many people will die until that date occurs. >>trace: investigators say syria could have thousands of chemical agents including cyanide and the deadly nerve gas. 40,000 people have died so far in the syrian civil war. now the fighting has spilled into neighboring lebanon, a nation where tens of thousands of syrians have sought refuge. officials in a northern city reported at least six people have died and more than 50 have been wounded in two days of violence. jonathan hunt is live today at the united nations. the big question is, will president assad stay and fight? will he seek asylum? >>jonathan: the turks and russians, they are saying they are working on what they call "new ideas to bring an end to the ongoing 20--month-old civil war." they have nut given any ideas or details what those idea

out of control. secretary of state hillary clinton says she fears a desperate president bashar al-assad in syria may resort to using chemical weapons on his own people. in the meantime, the united nations is hint thag there wil hinting that there will be no asylum for bashar al-assad as the syrian dictator makes it clear that he will die before leaving the country under any circumstances. what is going on behind the scenes, for that we turn to corn powell following all the latest developments from our mideast bureau in jerusalem. connor. >> reporter: the international and internal pressure is mounting on bashar al-assad today. secretary clinton reiterated her comments that the use of chemical weapons is a red line for the united states and that there would be consequences. we are also hearing that bashar al-assad is beginning to look for asylum around the world. he is reaching out to world leaders in latin america, particularly cuba, ecuador and venezuela. not on the list of places is russia and iran his two biggest military backers. this is all coming as the internal pressure on

department jobs that could be lost if automatic trick -- automatic tax cuts are formed. >>> bill clinton says he's not sure if hillary clinton will run for president. she said she does not want to continue a secretary of state for president obama's second term. she said she wants to focus on issues to -- that are important to women. >>> let's see what tara is seeing on 880. >> we have a lot of traffic on pinole and then past the golden gate gate. we're in berkeley/emeryville. we have a traffic issue in here. 280, northbound towards santa clara, looking pretty bad. give yourself extra time. let's check in with steve. >>> tara, thank you. there's definitely some breaks in the clouds. jive seen gusts to 25 miles per hour. i dent think this -- i've seen gusts to 25 miles per hour. i don't think this -- this breeze can helpster things up a little bit. still some low clouds around. i'm seeing breaks in the clouds for san jose. kind of a cooler pattern with the northwest wind. mostly sunny, though, today, no rain except we're done for a while. in fact, as the pattern changes here, even the higher cl

to turkey, hillary clinton warns syria against moving its chemical weapons. >> this is a red line for the united states. i'm not going to telegraph in any specifics what we are would do in the event of credible evidence that the assad regime has resorted to using chemical weapons against their own people, but suffice it to say, we are certainly planning to take action if that eventuality were to occur. >> and while washington buzzes over this video tribute to clinton, some are asking is it a farewell to the secretary or prelude to 2016? honoring the icons. politics meets hollywood. a tribute to the arts. president obama finds a way to salute an eclectic group of honor honorees. >> we've got my guy sitting next to dustin hoffman. dave letterman alongside one of the greatest ballerinas of all time. i couldn't think dave dances. there's no smooth transition from ballerina to led skep lin. they redefine the rock and roll lifestyle. we do not have video of this. there was some hotel rooms trashed and mayhem all around. so it's fitting that we're doing this in a room with windows about

forgets that president clinton raised taxes on the wealthy and created 22 million jobs. president bush cut taxes on the wealthy and created 1 million jobs. so his economic expertise is a little behind here. but the truth of the matter is, everybody voted in this election, the president said he would raise taxes on people earning over $250,000. that's what he's going to do. that's what's going to happen. he has the authority of an election behind him. running for office is a difficult thing to do, and the people that win the elections have a lot more moral authority than in a democracy than people who talk about elections. >> ryan, that does seem to be the point. republicans may not like it, but that wasn't what this election said american people want. the majority of them. >> i think it's certainly true you have a large number of americans, 60%, according to a "washington post" abc news poll who favor raising taxes on folks earning more than $250,000 a year. but there are a couple other things to keep in mind, as well. president obama often talks about returning to clinton era tax rates.

this because you remember, we went through this with newt. you know, bill clinton would push newt only so far, and then the conservatives in the caucus like myself and matt salmon, steve largent and others would say we're not doing a deal. we will take this place down. we're not doing a deal. and then newt would call bill clinton up and say, you're pushing me too far. you've got to work with me here. the same thing's happening right now with boehner. >> with boehner. >> the republican -- and when you start stripping people of committee -- committee seats, war breaks out and it gets really -- it happened with us. it's about to happen here. he's got to realize that boehner is his partner. >> it feels like we're at a really critical moment here with respect to boehner. and he can choose one of two paths. he could choose the recalcitrant path, which is perfectly possible, or he can say to himself, okay, i need to build a coalition for the purposes of this fiscal cliff deal. that includes house democrats. and how do i go about doing that without totally alienating the base of my party? and i'm ver

that rate to 39.6% where it was during the clinton administration. what else is in this new gop proposal? >> reporter: let's show you some of the savings when it comes to government spending. first of all, they put about $600 billion in what the republicans are calling health savings. we understand -- we don't have details. we understand much of that comes from medicare, things that we've heard from republicans over and over like raising the eligibility age, means testing, things like that. so then we have about $600 billion in essentially spending cuts, half from mandatory spending, half from discretionary spending. this is the other very interesting thing that's new. $200 billion from revising the consumer price index. that sounds very technical. but it has very real world consequences because it very much could affect the money, the checks that social security recipients in particular get every single month because it effectively changes inflation so it changes the formula from what they would get. >> significant differences between the white house proposal on this part of the equatio

.s. troops, shep. >> shepard: sheriffs clinton was at that meeting in brussels. she aimed her words about the syria crisis at another country. >> yes. the secretary directed her comments to russia. she emphasized that the stain legs of these patriot systems in turkey is not meant to destabilize nato's already uneasy relationship with moscow. back here at state chided the russians for skipping upcoming crisis meeting on the syrian conflict. >> we want to see obviously, you know, russia come around to the point of view of the international community with regard to what's happening in syria. you know, we want to work with russia as we have said many times from this podium on the basis of the geneva action group's communication. >> clinton is expected to meet with her russian counterpart sometime in the next 48 hours, shep. >> shepard: meantime syrian rebels are taking their fight to the capital of damascus. move aimed at putting additional pressure of regime and hitting the heart of president assad's power. that strategy is coming at a bloody cost. witnesses say a mortar slammed into a ninth

of consequences if it turned chemical weapons on its own citizens. and today secretary of state hillary clinton saying the world has made that perfectly clear to president bashar assad. >> we have sent an unmistakable message that this would cross a red line and those responsible would be held to account. >> activists saying at least 40,000 people have died in the antigovernment uprising that began last year. now evidence the blood shed is again seeping across another border into lebanon. gunmen loyal to the syrian regime and rebels fought it out on the streets in the northern part of that country. dozens reported dead in two days of fighting there. similar clashes have erupted more than a dozen times before in lebanon. more violence and death that we can trace back to the actions of one man. and today a new warning from the head of the united nations that president assad probably should not expect any mercy from his counterparts around the world. jonathan hunt has more on that from the united nations here in new york. jonathan, quite a debate about the asylum question for assad. and the questi

clinton and defense secretary leon panetta issued more stern warnings to syria today after nbc confirmed syria has loaded chemicals for deadly gas into bombs. >> the whole world is watching. the whole world is watching very closely. >> secretary clinton, in fact, just wrapped up an important meeting in russia, syria's strongest ally. "time" magazine's jim frederick will join us live about the latest developments. we know president obama and speaker boehner spoke on the phone last night, talked a lot about that even though we don't know what they discussed. the first read team says a fiscal cliff deal is in sight. what do they think the big deal will be? join our conversation on twitter. find us at @tamronhall a and @newsnation. [ male announcer ] at scottrade, you won't just find us online, you'll also find us in person, with dedicated support teams at over 500 branches nationwide. so when you call or visit, you can ask for a name you know. because personal service starts with a real person. [ rodger ] at scottrade, seven dollar trades are just the start. our support teams are nearby, re

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is possible, instead of raising it from where it is right now, 35% back up to the pre-bush era, clinton era, maybe do it someplace in between. have a little give there. another potential compromise that we're actually hearing from some republicans, moderate republica republicans, is to have a carve out for what republicans are worried most about. that is the effect of small businesses of raising those tax rates for the wealthiest americans. that is a little bit tricky, but it is something that is being talked about at least in some quarters here. by the end of the week, wolf, you're absolutely right. still very much nowhere on both sides. >> next week will be critical. we'll see if they do any better next week. they can't do much worse, i suppose. let's dig a little bit deeper with our chief political analyst and our senior political analyst, the editorial director of the national journal. the latest jobs that came out, gloria, 7.7% unemployment going down. 146,000 jobs created. that's good. this has been since december, 2008. a year ago, it was 8.8%. how does this play into the fiscal clif

granting himself absolute power. hillary clinton hillary clinton is holding surprise talks from russia's prime minister, amid reports president bashar al assad is considering using chemical weapons against his own people. >> afghan president hamid karzai sharply criticizes the united states in an interview with nbc news. he partly blames the u.s. for the instability in his country. >> part of the insecurity comes from the structures that nato and america created in afghanistan. the private security firms, the contractors that they promoted at the cost of afghan people and the way they behaved with the afghan people and the anger that has caused in the afghan people and the resulting insecurity. >> so would you say you believe that some of these would be intentional insecurity brought by nato and the united states? >> it is a very strong perception that some of that insecurity is intentional, yes. >> president karzai also accuses the u.s. of history lating the strategic partnership agreement the country signed last spring and said afghanistan will not sign any new agreements until the u

clinton. president truman's oldest grandson, who was the first truman to travel to japan. tonight on c-span 3, a look at hiroshima. a talk with his trip and what he learned it. learned through his words teacher made that his grandfather went through and now he went through in hiroshige of. 6:00 for those on the west coast on c-span 3. here is a preview. [video clip] >> i tried to look down and i saw so many dead bodies floating on the surface. people --'s so many the people suffered from the burned bodies. they went into water. it jumped into the river. >> that was a survivor of the bombings in hiroshima telling her story for the first time to daniel on his first visit to the two cities where the bomb was dropped the in 1945. you are listening for the first time. what did you see your role as as you were listening to it? >> just to be there to listen to her and to let her speak and to let her do this for the first time. >> for her understanding she was talking to the grandson of the man who made a decision to drop the bomb. did she talk to you about that? >> she did not. a lot the came

to the clinton levels, a time when the economy was doing exceptionally well, then there will not be an agreement. >> let's go to the other side. republican house speaker john boehner also digging in, admitting that talks are going nowhere. speaker boehner also describing the moment when geithner first showed him the president's opening offer. >> i was flabbergasted. i looked at him, i said, "you can't be serious." i've just never seen anything like it. you know, we've got seven weeks between election day and the end of the year. and three of those weeks have been wasted with this nonsense. right now i would say we're nowhere, period. we're nowhere. we've put a serious offer on the table by putting revenues up there to try to get this question resolved. but the white house has responded with virtually nothing. they've actually asked for more revenue than they've been asking for the whole entire time. >> what are the chances we're going to go over the cliff? >> there's clearly a chance. >>> meanwhile, grover norquist making a new prediction should lawmakers fail to reach a deal. >> understand how

republicans? joining us for a fair & balanced debate, simon rosenberg, a former clinton campaign adviser and president and founder of ndn, just for clarity, a democrat. and the former chairman of the republican party of virginia. kate, does the republican party mead to change its position on immigration? >> well, does it darn dash no it needs to actually star, it needs to talk bim congratulations. strstrategic decisions were made to stay away from the issues that affected these democrat i cans that the republicans did terrible with. the democrats define you on these positions, then as anti-immigration or as the president defined the republicans as the enemy of latino, he actually used that word. rips have to start being savvy and realize that their message is won't that truly does appeal to immigrants, the one of hope and opportunity. why do immigrants come to the united states? for freedom and prosperity. republicans have to start conveying they are the party of freedom and prosperity and start talking about legal immigration. look at these people around the world who have spent their l

hillary clinton is in belgium this morning, discussing security issues, including the worsening situation in syria. margaret brennan is at the nato headquarters in brussels. >> reporter: hillary clinton just finished her last nato meeting as secretary of state. military alliance decided not to intervene in syria to stop the killing that has taken the lives of nearly 40,000 people. they are sending patriot missiles to turkey, to create a shield to protect against potential chemical weapons attack. >> we've made our views absolutely clear to the syrians, to the international community through various channels, public, private, direct, indirect that this is a situation that the entire international community is united on. >> reporter: secretary clinton said the missile shield will only be used for defensive purposes. nato did not discuss a no fly zone or safe haven to protect syrians. for "cbs this morning," margaret brennan, nato headquarters, brussels. >>> in an interview on tuesday, i asked former defense secretary robert gates about the worsening situation in syria and the possibility of

buildings. secretary of state hillary clinton now raising more concerns that bashar al-assad may resort to using chemical weapons against his own people. hillary clinton saying the u.s. is worried about an increasingly desperate bashar al-assad may use the weapons or lose control of them. this battle has been exploited to some extent by al qaeda. the rebels have been infiltrated by al qaeda, which is becoming a growing force there. in any event, the concern about chemical weapons is vast. we will have one with the united states is now doing about the situation with general jack keane coming up in a bed. on capitol hill, national intelligence director james clapper just got done freaking house members on the deadly terror attack against our consulate and then got become libya. fox news has learned that mr. james clapper show them a timeline of the attack. you can see demonstrators reaching across and they began to loot and set fires. some of the demonstrators are seen armed, and there's a portion of the video showing the attackers running into the compound. we will have much more on what

is street to street, block to block, house to house, urban combat at its worst. hillary clinton says the events in syria are accelerating, and both sides are talking about some way to try to find some type of resolution to this war in syria that has lasted nearly two years long. russia a big supporter of the bashar al-assad, the russian foreign minister met with secretary clinton in bu dublin. she felt the meeting upbeat thinking there may be a come proeu myself in th compromise in the future. right now there is nothing concrete and syrians continue to die. >> reporter: with every step forward the opposition makes in syria it raises concerns that a cornered president bashar al-assad could be more likely to use those chemical weapons that are apparently loaded and ready to drop. lieutenant general tom mcnerney is a fox news military analyst and served as vice chief of staff of the united states air force. thanks so much for being here. intelligence reports suggest that bashar al-assad is making moves to putting together and readying these chemical weapons. you'll remember that preside

.6% rate of the clinton years? he did not. so is there a little give ultimately to sort of say what if it doesn't go up to 39.6%, but say 37%, is that something the white house would accept? also, this that same interview, the president raised the possibility, which is that after you do tax reform and you close loopholes and deductions, that if the rate is raised, the top rate, there's always a possibility that after you do tax reform, of course, the top rate would then go down again. so it was -- you have to listen to the president very carefully to see where there might be some give. the problem from my point of view is that everybody knows what's got to be done in the long-term. it's the question of the short-term deal. >> john boehner, speaker of the house, he came up with a proposal. but not all the conservatives in the house and the senate are on board. jim demint, republican senator from south carolina. >> this is a time to negotiate with ourselves. we need to invite the president to work with us. his proposal was so outlandish, i don't think we should go back to the table un

. you talked about presidents from obama to george w. bush, bill clinton, all objecting to settlement on that spot and getting his assurances from israel that it wouldn't be built on, so why now? tough talking? election coming up? what happened in the u.n.? what's the feeling there? >> well, certainly the israelis have made no secret of the fact that this is a direct punitive measure for what happened at the u.n. last thursday where, of course, the palestinians managed get an upgraded status there in the u.n. general assembly going to nonmember observer state. of course, the word state there is the operative one for the palestinians. the palestinians now say they do, in fact, have a state which is a taertory that is defined as the west bank, gaza, and east jerusalem. so, therefore, the palestinians are saying that this obviously would make the implementation of this state all but impossible because they say it would be impossible for them to even reach their capital that they want to have, which is, of course, east jerusalem. this is certainly a measure that's cause aing lot of intern

, if you will, that hillary clinton laid out pretty clearly? >> it was very important for her to draw a very clear line. because any use of chemical weapons has to be responded to internationally. i'm sure the secretary of state is immersed with russia right now, is in negotiations with russia for a united front against this absolutely unacceptable possibility. >> okay. so she's laid that out. but then the next step, of course, if, in fact, they're putting together the components that create sarin gas and they're leading these into weapons, are we going to war insider to stop this? the united states. >> i think that the u.s. is going to be laying out a series of actions in partnership with some other states that will be taken, should they use these chemical weapons. and it is my hope and i think the hope of everyone on this planet that a fierce and united international response will ensure that syria does not actually consider using these weapons. >> let's talk about the fiscal cliff. we now know, and it's kind of a slow news day on that front, right. the news we're reporting, the spe

with this. white house has signaled that susan rice may be the president's choice to replace hillary clinton for secretary of state. she is known to be one of the president's greatest loyalists and as recently this week, the president voiced utmost confidence in her. what hou do we feel about that? >> it's interesting but all the republicans have gone after ambassador rice because of benghazi but in fact there is a lot of reasons she may not make the best secretary of state. i'm a liberal here. that is because of the drones issue, because of her reputation in africa. they are focusing on benghazi and also her holdings. >> heather: do you think they will push forward on her nomination? >> susan rice is incompetent. it's a pattern. in 1996 when she was in the state department in africa, she was offered osama bin laden on a silver platter by sudan. she didn't accept him. fast forward two months, she was not in attendance when benjamin netanyahu gave a speech. benghazi, and there is a pattern that she is not good for the job. will he nominate her, but she needs 60 votes to go to the senate to se

is not one election, one time. >> secretary of state hillary clinton talking about egypt there. the country has been dealing with political turmoil and mass protest in the streets and there's a new twist today. egypt's supreme constitutional court has just issued a statement suspending its activity because of the protests. let's get more now from cnn's reza sayah that's in cairo. why did the court do this today? >> reporter: it looks like they were worried about their safety, randi." this is a big development, and these opposition factions behind us around going to like this, but this seems to shift the momentum in favor of the president and his supporters. this was the top court in egypt. they canceled a hearing where they were about to rule on the constitutionality of president morsi's decrees last week, and the constitutionalityality of this special panel that did the draft constitution. the government did a dismal black day, and the statement said they tried to walk in the courthouse, and the demonstrators in favor of the president had blocked the -- and climbed the walls and were chant

afternoon golf with those guys. former president bill clinton, former dnc chair terry mccauliff and ron kerr. it's the president's third outing since winning reelection. only the second time ever, though, he has played golf with former president clinton. president obama has a full day today. >>> coming up, as another u.s. base comes under attack in afghanistan, we will look at what the war on terror will look like after american troops come home. >>> plus, there's the question of what to do with the several hundred detainees still locked up at guantanamo. we'll cover it all. the brain trust is here. they won't disappoint. they won't disappoint a whole lot. you're watching msnbc, the place for politics. oh, sir. that is a customer. oh...sorry about that. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. fedex office. a new way to save on your prescriptions. it's the aarp medicarerx saver plus plan from unitedhealthcare. with this plan, you can get copays as low as a dollar through a preferred network pharmacy like walgreens -- where you'll find 8,000 convenient locations. best of all, this pl

to actually use them against rebel forces, is not clear. as secretary of state hillary clinton points out. >> our concerns are that an increasingly desperate assad regime might turn to chemical weapons or might lose control of them to one of the many groups that are now operating within syria. >> syria automatically denies it intends to use chemical weapons against its its own peo whether rebel or nonrebel, quote. syria stresses again, for the 10th, the 100th time, that if we had such weapons, they would not be used against its people. we would people. whether suicide. we fear there is a conspiracy to provide a pretext for any subsequent interventions against syria by these countries that are increasing pressure on syria. unquote. so sasaid syria's deputy foreig minister faisal miqdad. >> it should be noted that the rebels who are fighting the troops of assad are themselves part of the same country. >> that's right. >> so therefore the foreign minister saying we would never use them against our own brothers, now do you believe him or what do you think? >> i tend to believe the syrian fore

." i am making kelly. earlier today, secretary of state clinton publicly board bashar al-assad's regime. this comes after terrible violence of syria this weekend. this is video received on saturday. small towns being bombarded, sending innocent families and women and small children once again running for their lives. a short time ago, the united nations announced it is withdrawing all nonessential personnel from the country. as the possible threat of chemical warfare now looms. look at these families. look at this. along with an active chemical weapons program, syria has ballistic weapons program with deadly gas. they have vast amounts of nerve agents and finite, all decide to cause fetal death. this from the white house moments ago. >> is the opposition makes teaching expenses, the bashar escalationgime, we have been of weapons used against the syrian people. as the president has said, and hughes were proliferation by the syrian regime would cross a red line for the united states. megyn: joining me now is ambassador john bolton, a former ambassador to the united nations and the fox new

obama made the statement about syria and chemical weapons again and secretary clinton did. we understand the red line. the world, this week, certainly growing concern about syria's potential use of chemical weapons. can we ask you your view on this. how concerned are you? how imminent are your concerns? and should assad believe that his weapons are sheltered and safe from potential -- a potential response in a potential military action by anyone? >> well, without commenting on the specific intelligence that we have with regards to the chemical weapons, there is no question that we remain very concerned, very concerned that as the ouch suggestion advances in particular damascus and the regime, we very well consider the use of chemical well -- weapons. the whole world is watching. the world is watching very closely. and the president of the united states has made very clear that there will be cops consequenceses -- consequences there will be consequences if the assad regime makes a terrible mistake by using these chemical weapons. i'm not going speculate, comment on what the potential cons

aware of the seriousness of the president's position on this. >> secretary of state clinton is in brawls attending the nato foreign minister session. she emphasized that the patriot system being deployed to turkey are not meant to destabilize the already uneasy relationship with russia as the spokesman at home urged now to join the international community in helping to ease bashar al-assad. >>shepard: thank you from the state department. that is the reporting. now the context and perspective. now to the director of the program on arab politics at the washington institute for near east policy a "american bandstand" group of scholars whose mission is to advance america's interests overseas. how big a move is this movement of chemical weapons? what does it tell us in the big picture? >>guest: it is very significant. it highlights the desperation of assad regime, the fact he is mixing the recursors of sarin gas, that is a scare tactic for us to keep us out of it, and, also, warning the people of syria he could be prepared to use these if he is brought down. >>shepard: based on what the unite

? >> actually, california voted for clinton before pete wilson got involved in the debate over whether illegal immigrants ought to have welfare benefits. democrat is a democratic state because it's state of immigrants for the reasons that charles mentioned. what is missing is not all immigrants are the same. many latin american countries send us immigrants that go on welfare. but does the united states need new numbers of the low skilled immigrants in a post industrial economy? is that good for the united states? it's mindless to say all immigrants are good. they are not. some are, some aren't. like all days are good. some days are good, some days aren't. we need and the republican party ought to be courageous enough to draw a distinction between people who add to the sum total of the american economy, buy in the culture, who improve the country and those who don't. there is a difference. >> bret: where is the screen? >> well, the screen begins with a conversation about outcomes. why is it that immigrants with certain countries have not thrived and immigrants from other countries have thrived?

. the president and secretary of state hillary clinton said that would be crossing a red line. >>> the federal government calls it secure communities. now a program aimed at illegal immigrants is coming under fire. the u.s. mandate that california's attorney general wants to ignore. >> it's only day two but royal baby watch is in full swing in london. when kate is expected to come home from the hospital and the welcome visit she received today. >>> our ipad app is ready to download. you can watch awful our newscasts live, plus traffic, weather and video of breaking news anytime, anywhere. >>> the state attorney general issued a bulletin to all law enforcement agencies today telling them they do not have to comply with a federal immigration program. attorney general camila harris says the immigration and customs for the program called secure communities is unconstitutional. she's telling police across the state to enforce it under their own discretion. secure communities instructs law enforcement to hold undocumented immigrants until ice can pick them up. critics say this just clogs jails and n

: hillary clinton. >> we followed the president and president bush into war and now i think this president is being understandably cautious. listen, because saddam hussein had used sarin gas on his own people in 1988, it was not a giant leap to assume that he was going to use them on us or on his neighbors. >> brian: in the aftermath of the war, it was found there after the persian gulf war. >> well, i don't remember a lot of sarin gas being found. some was indeed. i guess. i have a dim recollection of that. it certainly wasn't a big item. but listen, we know now, intelligence tells us now that bashar assad in syria has sarin gas and he is partially loaded them on his fighter bombers that now pretty well established. it's not just fox news reporting it and nbc news reporting it. it's intelligence sources in washington and elsewhere abroad. now it is pretty clear that they have taken at least the preliminary steps. however, and here is where i differ from the vice president, i believe that the secretary of state, hillary clinton, and the president of the united states has made very, very cl

going on between bill clinton and then speaker newt gingrich and the government did shut down. the president emerged on both occasions, two shutdowns, in a stronger political position because the american public blamed the conservatives, the republicans in congress more than they blamed the white house. so that is the one area where the white house is saying, look, they have some leverage on that. >> let me ask you this, wolf. you have been at this game a long time. this intractability sounds and feel it's like nothing we have ever seen before. do you have any sort of, i don't know, light on the horizon that you see? are we going to be this polarized and literally make the country pay for what's now become just sheer ugly politics? >> my own gut tells me that between now and the end of the year they will reach a deal. and it will be a compromise and both sides won't be thrilled by it, but it will be better than the alternative. and it will probably go down to the last minute. it usually does. maybe ruin some christmas vacations and stuff like that, but the stakes really are en

and a half now. >>> secretary of state hillary clinton is leading a new u.s. diplomatic push on syria holding talks in dublin, ireland, today. let me begin with you. including this distressing nbc news report, what and how much do we know about al assad's movements at this point? >> reporter: there have been concerns for months. the u.s. reiterated for quite some time if assad did anything with those chemical weapons and utilize them in any way, theat would be a red line that brought on consequences. there's not concern that bashar al assad might iutilize them against his own people but if weapons are still there terrorists could get hands on weapons and utilize those chemical weapons. you have this nbc news report. also on monday important to remind our viewers, cnn reported that they had word from u.s. officials that in fact syria had begun mixing chemical weapons and that would be done to create sarin for weapons in the future. they say there was no sign that the syrian officials were going to do anything with those weapons any time soon. important to remember that. also important to remem

, but i could go back to knot the use of the filibuster but other methods of obstruction with bill clinton who reached out all the time. so i think that's the factor but a minor one. i think harry reid's use of filling the amendment tree, partly this is chicken and egg, but has been done too much and that didn't result in at least some protests and willingness of some senators on his side who might otherwise have joined in some of these filibusters to do so. it had much more to do with a concerted party strategy can which i think is the first time we have seen it. >> i think there's two separate issues. one, obstruction on nominations, and to come obstruction on -- [inaudible] it is true you see these judges and it will go 99 points. but i think it's important to remember what we are talking about. the alternative to that is to move it by unanimous consent. it's not like the house where there is about. and if a member of checks to unanimous consent because they do not want to vote, don't want to be forced to vote for a judge, they say i will have a roll call. now, the majority leader at th

. that is clinton's only station. no. 12 and martina's and no. 16 and lafayette is all so on the chopping block. that is one of three stations in that city. it is a huge it district and we are talking about nine cities and 600,000 people and they answer 41,000 calls a year. this is a big deal. they're having a meeting in martinez at 130 and folks from the fire district are encouraging people to voice their concerns about these closers. they really don't have a choice and and a half to save the money and this is the only way to do it. >> not good news for those neighborhoods. jackie, thank you for the update. >> we're on the scene of what police are calling a sophisticated pop growing operation. will tran is on the scene. >> at 3:00 this morning neighbors saw three guys walking into this house and looked a ban did. they walked in and started grabbing things and removing them and putting them in their cars. neighbors felt that someone was burglarizing the place and they call the police department. the officers arrived in by the time they got here all the suspects were gone but they went inside an

clinton. the question, of course, is what is the administration to do now? suzanne. >> how are people reacting to this news, the fact that you've got the defense secretary now what it seems to be getting closer to some of the statements we have seen about real concern over the possibility of these chemical weapons? >> yeah. i think that's exactly the point. secretary panetta going on to say, as others have, but saying it very emphatically just a few moments ago, that assad needs to know there will be consequences if he decides to use those chemical weapons against his own people, and, of course, that's as much a message to assad, to iran, which is heavily involved in syria right now, and also, to the middle east dawas in the region. turkey, israel, majoritiedan, as well as lebanon that borders syria and are very concerned about this prospect. what you are seeing really is the rhetoric, the concern, the latest intelligence, and that this is now becoming a regional concern throughout the middle east, suzanne. >> and, barbara, final question, is this any closer to the red line that we he

's really not wrapped around that area. what has happened in part d and president rick clinton referred to this in his speech at the democratic convention is bringing the cost of the pharmaceuticals found. but is doing is similar to what was i was talking about ability to capitalistic competition. we did a joint venture a few years ago with wal-mart and we introduced a $50 a month drug plan. fifteen dollars a month. the industry thought we were crazy to do this. but what we did its worked with wal-mart's purchasing power, wal-mart's distribution capability and management and our ability to bring solutions to our members have broader product out. it has brought down the price of part d significantly in the industry. d.c. united came out $15 it is not doing with targeted pbs. what that's doing is spurring competition to the market place. you're right, maybe you can't take the anthem plan and humana plan by the time of purchase and users individually, but the thing about medicare advantage is you can walk the next year and your ability to walk from one planned to another plan motivates me

, and secretary clinton moves throughout the region as well as secretary panetta, and the amount of activities i do and my forces do is a prompt jump than what we did in the past, and we're looking for opportunities to do more exercise. we are doing more of those things already, and that's viz l to the allies. i think it's visible to the partners, and i feel it visible to the region. we oftenment to jump to, well, where's the next aircraft carry your or the submarine. that's the signal. we will, over time, as you've heard secretary panetta say, rebalance towards the pacific, and i mentioned opening remarks. we're rapidly moving the most capable assets into the region because of the ballistic missile defense threats we face and those things, so it's about a holistic approach, and what i do on the military side is just one aspect of it. it's got to be tie into the economic side, what's happening in the diplomatic side, and so we're working hard that accomplishes this strategy. >> a quick question. you started to do or plan to do rotational b-52 deployments to northern australia. >> well, you've se

to try custer rebellion. secretary of state and hillary clinton says if he goes down the road there will be consequences. >> i will not telegraph any specifics what we would do in the event of credible evidence that the a cyber regime has resorted to using chemical weapons-- a shad reading.regime . we are certainly going to take action if that were to occur. >> u.s. officials say he could use shells that-this is 500 more times daily then sign not one drop in killing person in name matter of minutes. i am mary ellen hawkins reporting. >> will follow the latest in syrria will let you know if and when things escalate. will take a quick break we have a live look outside from one of creek. we are looking at the ride on 680. erica is reminding us that we do have showers in store for later today and tomorrow. keep that in mind as you are making plans. we'll be right back. welcome back the time is 4: 40. on your tuesday morning and warning from the center of disease control that is coming flu season to be a particularly bad one. kron 4 stand firm and has more. >> if you have not gotte

on the president's list of possible replacements for hillary clinton who has said that she is not staying on for the president's second term. cnn's elise labott is at the state department to talk about it. do a comparison for us, off the bat. pros and cons for the top diplomatic post. the halls of the state department are buzzing with potential new secretary of state. both would make a strong candidate. susan rice, for instance, one of president obama's closest advisers. she was his principal foreign policy adviser during his first campaign and helped shape his world view. they have a similar world view. all of this signifies susan rice would be influential when she goes to speak to diplomats around the world and world leaders and also in formulating foreign policy, which is very good for the state department. on the downside, you see what's happening with the benghazi affair. she's likely to have a bruising confirmation process. some republican senators said they might hold up her nomination. that could drag out a while. john kerry, on the other hand, would be easily confirmable. you see

the president or either from secretary clinton or tony blair is, you know, they talk about the if. what then? any possible scenarios, possible action, i'm not hearing concrete scenarios, are you? >> well, you're not, brooke. i think for a very good reason. they want to stop this before it gets to that. nobody wants to have to strike at syrian chemical weapons plants. if you think about it logically, it is a very tough target. you have to know exactly where it is. you have to strike that hard enough to virtually incinerate all the chemical or biological material there before it escapes into the atmosphere. if those chemical weapons started to go on the move, in artillery shells or bombs, could you chase them all down? and, of course, in syria, much of this material is located or co-located in neighborhoods and towns with civilian populations. so you're putting civilian populations at risk. i think that's why you're hearing the very tough language from washington to nato headquarters. everybody wants this stopped before it even happens, brooke. >> talking about baer last hour, former cia, he s

that president was in cambodia right after the election. he was in burma. secretary clinton moved widely throughout the region as does secretary panetta. and the amount of activities that i do and my forces do have been a prompt jump in what we've done in the past, and we're looking for opportunities to do more exercise. we're doing more of those things already. i think it's visible to our allies. i think it's visible to our partners. not to be invisible to the region. we also want to jump, where's the next summary our aircraft carrier, that's always the sake of. and we will, over time as you heard secretary panetta said, we will rebalance our navy towards the pacific, and i party mentioned in my opening remarks, we are rapidly moving our most capable assets in the region because of some of the ballistic missile defense will be facing of those types of things. so i think it's not about one thing. it's about a holistic approach, and what if you on the military side is only one aspect of a. it's got to be tied to what's happening in the economic side in what's happening in the diplomatic s

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